Free download #3

[FitSaxe]

You did contradict yourself a number of times trying to seem like you know everything Cathe is thinking & doing. It was a funny post IMO!

=Well if you felt i contradicted myself, From your adulthood, you should have replied to correct me. As you have quoted above, you want to act with transparency. Instead you did not, you made a snarky comment interacting with a user who blocked me, who 'ignore" my profile Aqua girl. Is that transparency? Give me a break! she is behind every post of mind blocking my profile! Does it make sense??!!
FYI i don't play funny game with bullies!!! You and all of us are entitled to make our opinion without any harassment!

 

[FitSaxe]

I know there are benefits to CLB, which is why I wish I enjoyed it more. I'm in no way putting down any form of fitness or what other people like or prefer. I meant no insult. I was just laughing at Kellyro77's comment. I was not laughing or mocking her, CLB, or what other people like for their workouts. We all have preferences, and I have a sense of humor (maybe an odd sense of humor?), but I could really relate to her comment and found it funny. It sounds like she has a sense of humor too, and I enjoyed that. I've learned that life's too short too not smile and laugh every time we get a chance. I'm just happy - didn't mean for that to offend. My being happy IS part of me doing me.

No worry @Braille

 

[aqua girl]

Enough! First, Fixsaxe, I do not have you on “ignore”….in fact I ignore no one…. I
simply was quoting a few of your comments, made within a short time frame, and to
be honest, I was confused…..But, mission accomplished, this is my last post on this
website, I wish everyone the best and hope Cathe & crew will be well.

 

[Debinmi]

Enough! First, Fixsaxe, I do not have you on “ignore”….in fact I ignore no one…. I
simply was quoting a few of your comments, made within a short time frame, and to
be honest, I was confused…..But, mission accomplished, this is my last post on this
website, I wish everyone the best and hope Cathe & crew will be well.

That makes me sad. I bet FitSaxe is jumping and clicking her heels. I hope you reconsider. I think you are one of the kindest, helpful & caring people on the forum .

To set the record straight, I have had FitSaxe on Ignore a number of times when she gets in her bullying stance. In fact I have had her on Ignore for a awhile this afternoon to cool the forum down and to prevent her from sending ugly threats again in a PM. I'm don't think I'll be missing anything of real importance by doing so. Maybe some insults, but as I said, nothing of importance. So please reconsider and just hit ignore on her profile.

 

[Braille]

Ganging up together like in the past is not going to intimidate me either.
Please kindly mind your own business. She is not a victim here. This bullying attitude has not started now.

I don't want to get in the middle of this, but I feel I must speak up. From the posts that I read, I've seen no signs of bullying from these ladies, and they've been nothing but helpful to me over the years - encouraging, supportive, and sharing their experiences and knowledge. I was absent from this forum for quite some time, but I am not new to this forum, so while I don't know what on earth is going on, I've never known them to claim to know everything. They share, like we all do. Please reread their posts. If you're having a bad day or something awful is going on in your life, it can make it so one interprets things in ways that were not intended. I was the victim of extreme "bullying" for over 2 decades. That is not what is happening here. This is a friendly (and I've always felt "safe") here. To be honest... there aren't very many places that I feel safe, so that's quite an accomplishment for this site. That doesn't mean, however, that everybody will have the same opinions, knowledge, or viewpoint. It's okay to disagree, as long as we try to understand each other. It's okay to take the advice that works best for us and leave the rest for someone else that benefit from it more. It's okay to give opinions and they aren't what someone was looking for. It's not a wasted opinion... someone will find it helpful. I find it helpful (and this comes from experience, not a place of judgement) to make my decisions from the left side of my brain - the decisions and responses I make from my right (emotional - knee jerk reactions) are not as reliable as my left-brained carefully considered ones. I believe if you reread their comments without the emotion... you'll see them as I do - simple comments and questions asking for clarification. Healthy conversations can come out of this forum if we remember that we all have the same goal... to be as healthy and fit as possible so that we can live life to its fullest. It's not healthy to privately message someone with something negative. I received a message from a wonderful gal on this forum that brought tears to my eyes - she was so supportive. I would have been horrified to have received the one you sent. Please rethink the way you are perceiving and handling this situation. This forum can be a wonderful place if you let it.

 

[Braille]

Enough! First, Fixsaxe, I do not have you on “ignore”….in fact I ignore no one…. I
simply was quoting a few of your comments, made within a short time frame, and to
be honest, I was confused…..But, mission accomplished, this is my last post on this
website, I wish everyone the best and hope Cathe & crew will be well.

I have relied on your opinions and advice a number of times. It's not fair that many of us will lose out on that, because of one. We are here to support each other. This is me, attempting to give support and advice (although unsolicited lol). You are doing what she's doing - making an emotional decision. Please don't do that! Take some time to think about it, and remember how much you've received AND contributed to this forum. I am sure I would not be the only one that misses you. I am uncomfortable with what's been going on too, and it saddens me, but there are enough positive people on here that we CAN turn this around. I have a past that makes me want to "flee" bad situations, and it's taking everything I have to put myself in the middle of this. THAT's how important I think you are to this site. My emotions are saying "run" - "stay out of it", but my brain is saying that I have to be strong and do what I can to support those that have supported me. I will support any decision that you make, because it is your choice, and I can even understand why you'd choose to go, but please think about it and reconsider before you make a final decision, okay?

 

[FitSaxe]

I don't want to get in the middle of this, but I feel I must speak up. From the posts that I read, I've seen no signs of bullying from these ladies, and they've been nothing but helpful to me over the years - encouraging, supportive, and sharing their experiences and knowledge. I was absent from this forum for quite some time, but I am not new to this forum, so while I don't know what on earth is going on, I've never known them to claim to know everything. They share, like we all do. Please reread their posts. If you're having a bad day or something awful is going on in your life, it can make it so one interprets things in ways that were not intended. I was the victim of extreme "bullying" for over 2 decades. That is not what is happening here. This is a friendly (and I've always felt "safe") here. To be honest... there aren't very many places that I feel safe, so that's quite an accomplishment for this site. That doesn't mean, however, that everybody will have the same opinions, knowledge, or viewpoint. It's okay to disagree, as long as we try to understand each other. It's okay to take the advice that works best for us and leave the rest for someone else that benefit from it more. It's okay to give opinions and they aren't what someone was looking for. It's not a wasted opinion... someone will find it helpful. I find it helpful (and this comes from experience, not a place of judgement) to make my decisions from the left side of my brain - the decisions and responses I make from my right (emotional - knee jerk reactions) are not as reliable as my left-brained carefully considered ones. I believe if you reread their comments without the emotion... you'll see them as I do - simple comments and questions asking for clarification. Healthy conversations can come out of this forum if we remember that we all have the same goal... to be as healthy and fit as possible so that we can live life to its fullest. It's not healthy to privately message someone with something negative. I received a message from a wonderful gal on this forum that brought tears to my eyes - she was so supportive. I would have been horrified to have received the one you sent. Please rethink the way you are perceiving and handling this situation. This forum can be a wonderful place if you let it.

you are right I do not intend to drag you in this drama.
My message was addressed to @Lady Vol Fan
in response to this below:

 

[Braille]

you are right I do not intend to drag you in this drama.
My message was addressed to @Lady Vol Fan
in response to this below:

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I do not see anything wrong with that message. Taken at face value, I agree with it.

You don't have to respond to what I'm going to say, but it comes from a place of genuine concern. My dad has PTSD, my mom and my son... they are both bi-polar. I love them ALL dearly, but there are times when their view of the world is very negative, because their mental illnesses make things challenging. Also, I know from personal experience (survivor of emotional/mental, physical, and another kind of abuse that I'm not yet strong enough to talk about) that our past or what we're currently going through can skew our world. We have fight or flight (or in some cases "freeze") instincts that kick in whether something is real or perceived. We all have an instinct for self-preservation. For some reason, that instinct seems to be on high alert right now. That's not necessarily a bad thing. It just IS - it's your body/mind's reaction to something that's going on in your life. I can't speak for those you've interacted with, but I will speak ABOUT them. They've said nothing wrong. I think you're using this site to escape something that needs dealt with in your own life. You're angry, and our choices aren't good when we're angry or scared or overemotional. It looks to me (as an outsider looking in) that you are overwhelmed and overreacting and lashing out. That is NOT meant to be an insult - I had friends that had to tell me that myself when I was recovering from something really bad. I have no way of helping you, but I just thought maybe an outside opinion would be helpful if you're receptive to it. (I was not strong enough to be receptive when I was making choices out of fear). Can you take a 24 hour break from the forum? Take a bubble bath, a hike in the woods, a yoga session, and some time to think. Let your fight or flight response deflate. I think it's controlling you right now... and take it from me... you don't want that. You are seeing these women as your enemies, but they are really great ladies. I'm sure that you are a good person too... you've cared enough about a total stranger (me), to send me links and respond to a concern that I had. Your reaction and responses on this forum have changed over the last few days though, and I can't help wondering if something is bothering you, and it's causing you to lash out? I know I'm sticking my nose in where it doesn't belong, but I want to help if I can. So many (including you) have helped me. I don't always like the answers I receive, but they are generally what I need to hear and what's best for me, even when I don't want to hear it. I'm trying to do the same for you.

 

[Kellyro77]

Is it possible there's a bit of a communication break down from language and cultural barriers?

ie: Not everyone here is from the U.S., and English isn't everyone's first language.

 

[FitSaxe]

Is it possible there's a bit of a communication break down from language and cultural barriers?

ie: Not everyone here is from the U.S., and English isn't everyone's first language.

I do not think there is a cultural issue. I am opened to be prooven wrong if there is any issue.
May be there is an ego issue!

As to the language, any misunderstanding can be addressed to avoid drama.

As i stated before everyone here is entitled to interact, share opinion and knowledge.
When necessary, We shall all agree to disagree.

Hope all this is clear.

 

[FitSaxe]

Repeatedly using angry reactions to member posts is ALSO a form of harassment and intimidation

Have you got fact for making such statement above. Repeatedly!!! When? and for what? I have sent a message once to user debinmin and aqua. so repeatedly sound an exaggeration to me!

 

[Braille]

Have you got fact for making such statement above. Repeatedly!!! When? and for what? I have sent a message once to user debinmin and aqua. so repeatedly sound an exaggeration to me!

FitSaxe, I'm not great with technology, but I believe Lady Vol Fan is referring to the emojis that one can put at the bottom of another's comment (the happy, sad, angry, etc. faces). And Kellyro isn't trying to cause conflict... she was trying to be helpful by looking for a reason that you're misunderstanding people's comments. Nobody has to prove anybody wrong, and I haven't seen any comments that indicate that anybody that's been commenting on your posts have an ego position. Please tell us what's wrong - maybe somebody can help. I don't know if you realize it, but you're making things worse. Nobody is trying to hurt you, so it's very confusing as to why you're so upset. This is normally a friendly forum, and the comments I've read from you seem one-sided in being not friendly. Is there anything we can do to help you feel better? You're going to hurt someone's feelings if you continue, and there's no need for that. This is a safe place for many of us, so I'm sorry you're not feeling that, but I really think you're misunderstanding something, and if we could clear that up... there would be peace on this site, which would benefit everybody, which includes you. You are hurting yourself by lashing out at others. I don't want to see anybody hurting. Is there anything we can do that would help you to understand that people on here do not mean you any harm? They just want peace, as I'm sure you do as well.

 

[FitSaxe]

FitSaxe, I'm not great with technology, but I believe Lady Vol Fan is referring to the emojis that one can put at the bottom of another's comment (the happy, sad, angry, etc. faces). And Kellyro isn't trying to cause conflict... she was trying to be helpful by looking for a reason that you're misunderstanding people's comments. Nobody has to prove anybody wrong, and I haven't seen any comments that indicate that anybody that's been commenting on your posts have an ego position. Please tell us what's wrong - maybe somebody can help. I don't know if you realize it, but you're making things worse. Nobody is trying to hurt you, so it's very confusing as to why you're so upset. This is normally a friendly forum, and the comments I've read from you seem one-sided in being not friendly. Is there anything we can do to help you feel better? You're going to hurt someone's feelings if you continue, and there's no need for that. This is a safe place for many of us, so I'm sorry you're not feeling that, but I really think you're misunderstanding something, and if we could clear that up... there would be peace on this site, which would benefit everybody, which includes you. You are hurting yourself by lashing out at others. I don't want to see anybody hurting. Is there anything we can do that would help you to understand that people on here do not mean you any harm? They just want peace, as I'm sure you do as well.

ok this below here in bleu is what I would qualify as being out of order! Why would someone state willing to read review coming from me bloc me. I am struggling to make sense in such attitude. That is all I have to say.
I did not send any more message. In fact I have not got any intention whatsoever to send her any message. Please do not make things up! Since she is into transparency, let show my bullying messages!!!! We know who is the real bully!

 

[Braille]

ok this below here in bleu is what I would qualify as being out of order! Why would someone state willing to read review coming from me bloc me. I am struggling to make sense in such attitude. That is all I have to say.
I did not send any more message. In fact I have not got any intention whatsoever to send her any message. Please do not make things up! Since she is into transparency, let show my bullying messages!!!! We know who is the real bully!

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But there's no bullying in those messages. Both ladies are making choices that work for them. One... to leave the site (which I hope she doesn't do) and the other to "ignore", which is a valid choice if she's feeling uncomfortable. You should also do what feels comfortable for you to keep your peace. If you choose to avoid something by blocking or "ignoring" it is because it's good for YOU, right? It's not intended to hurt others. These ladies making choices that are best for them is not an attack on you - it's not bullying. Have you thought about what you yourself need to be happier on this site? Stop worrying about others - you're reading too much into it. Figure out what YOU need. That's all they are doing... they are figuring out what THEY need. You're a Cathlete, so you know that fitness is not the only thing we need to worry about to stay healthy. We need to take care of other aspects of our health too - including mental health. When people decide to "ignore" or block... that's what they are doing - they are maintaining a calm, peaceful life. It's not an assault on others. It is their strength showing - their ability to set and maintain boundaries. It's a good thing. You need to find what will make you feel calm and at peace too. We all deserve to be in control of our own happiness, don't you think? You're not happy right now, but only you have the power to fix that. If you have time today, try doing something for yourself that makes you feel good - for me... that's a bubblebath and a piece of dark chocolate (okay, I'll be honest... maybe a glass of red wine is involved too lol). Do something for yourself that helps you feel good about yourself. When we take care of ourselves, we're happier and we can see things in a more positive light.

 

[FitSaxe]

But there's no bullying in those messages. Both ladies are making choices that work for them. One... to leave the site (which I hope she doesn't do) and the other to "ignore", which is a valid choice if she's feeling uncomfortable. You should also do what feels comfortable for you to keep your peace. If you choose to avoid something by blocking or "ignoring" it is because it's good for YOU, right? It's not intended to hurt others. These ladies making choices that are best for them is not an attack on you - it's not bullying. Have you thought about what you yourself need to be happier on this site? Stop worrying about others - you're reading too much into it. Figure out what YOU need. That's all they are doing... they are figuring out what THEY need. You're a Cathlete, so you know that fitness is not the only thing we need to worry about to stay healthy. We need to take care of other aspects of our health too - including mental health. When people decide to "ignore" or block... that's what they are doing - they are maintaining a calm, peaceful life. It's not an assault on others. It is their strength showing - their ability to set and maintain boundaries. It's a good thing. You need to find what will make you feel calm and at peace too. We all deserve to be in control of our own happiness, don't you think? You're not happy right now, but only you have the power to fix that. If you have time today, try doing something for yourself that makes you feel good - for me... that's a bubblebath and a piece of dark chocolate (okay, I'll be honest... maybe a glass of red wine is involved too lol). Do something for yourself that helps you feel good about yourself. When we take care of ourselves, we're happier and we can see things in a more positive light.

@Braille Thank you. trying to help and understand is a kind approach. I am grateful. They can block me, they have done it in the past. i have blocked some user because of bullying in the past. Some here know what I am talking about and some have sent me private messages because they did not have the courage to face them openly. I am talking facts.
One user, a regular user i blocked because bullying in the past, is still around and I am fine with that. she has not created any more drama and I am happy with that.
I will take time to decide whether to block or not. i won't let the bullying dictate what type of training I should support, who instructor i should support etc.....I disappeared for a while and I won't go anywhere. I will carry on interacting with anyone willing in a respectful manner.

Oh, yes I am into chocolate....But it has to be the best, our Belgian chocolate which contain at least 70% of pure cocoa butter .Yes a glass of pure neighbours wine.... France is also what I enjoy

 

[FitSaxe]

But there's no bullying in those messages. Both ladies are making choices that work for them. One... to leave the site (which I hope she doesn't do) and the other to "ignore", which is a valid choice if she's feeling uncomfortable. You should also do what feels comfortable for you to keep your peace. If you choose to avoid something by blocking or "ignoring" it is because it's good for YOU, right? It's not intended to hurt others. These ladies making choices that are best for them is not an attack on you - it's not bullying. Have you thought about what you yourself need to be happier on this site? Stop worrying about others - you're reading too much into it. Figure out what YOU need. That's all they are doing... they are figuring out what THEY need. You're a Cathlete, so you know that fitness is not the only thing we need to worry about to stay healthy. We need to take care of other aspects of our health too - including mental health. When people decide to "ignore" or block... that's what they are doing - they are maintaining a calm, peaceful life. It's not an assault on others. It is their strength showing - their ability to set and maintain boundaries. It's a good thing. You need to find what will make you feel calm and at peace too. We all deserve to be in control of our own happiness, don't you think? You're not happy right now, but only you have the power to fix that. If you have time today, try doing something for yourself that makes you feel good - for me... that's a bubblebath and a piece of dark chocolate (okay, I'll be honest... maybe a glass of red wine is involved too lol). Do something for yourself that helps you feel good about yourself. When we take care of ourselves, we're happier and we can see things in a more positive light.

I am not going anywhere, I have not done anything wrong. There is no bullying from me. These ladies and their associate will strike for sure. @Braille You have not been around long enough to fully acknowledge the way they operate.

You shall wait and see their attitude while waiting for series release. In meantime, you may need to read this thread. it is all linked for you. You do NOT need to be tecc savy, just click and read to fully understand how the "lot..." is trying to pull strings arounds https://cathe.com/forum/threads/lift-move-restore-update…10-28-24.319759/

We are here to support each other regardless of our own preferences. We are also in this forum to support a whoever we think is professionally good in his/her products without being bullied by anyone.
I invite you to read past thread about LMR release around November 2024. There was a group of women "complaining" about delays. There have been unpleasant comments, to say the least. The same group is complaining because of delay for LMR2 release, they are relentless. They hijack various thread to "complain" - - - that is where the bullying is coming from.

It's not fair on anyone willing to discuss other matter than whinging on a daily basis.

Please don't get me wrong, by no means I intend to imply cathe customers have no rights to complain.

What is not acceptable is deliberately hijacking some helpful thread from loyal and genuine customers to "proove a point" over and over. That is what happened with this thread titled : "Free download #3" all of sudden a user "marret" we have never seen around come to rescue and support through smilies that is quite bold and smart!!! Any intimidation through snarky comments are not acceptable and I do not care.

They can and should block me but they won't. In fact, I invite them to do so. They can also completely abandon/ give up the current user profile and reopen a new one for the "sake of transparency". Trust me I am not bipolar, I just can't stand bullying. I have been around for a while and I know my "cathlete mentality", I quite know my cathlete craft and that makes things difficult for bullies. Have a good day!

 

[FitSaxe]

But there's no bullying in those messages. Both ladies are making choices that work for them. One... to leave the site (which I hope she doesn't do) and the other to "ignore", which is a valid choice if she's feeling uncomfortable. You should also do what feels comfortable for you to keep your peace. If you choose to avoid something by blocking or "ignoring" it is because it's good for YOU, right? It's not intended to hurt others.

I have a better solution for one of those tree ladies involved in this drama as far as transparency is concerned. instead of ignore or block cause this seems difficult to stick to, just recover one of her other profile . For my peace, I am sticking to what i like, supporting each other , sharing knowledge in a respectful civil manner and staying out of the "relentless-whinging lot!"

 

[FitSaxe]

Hey Everyone,

Just a reminder about the third free download.

 

[nickisteen]

That makes me sad. I bet FitSaxe is jumping and clicking her heels. I hope you reconsider. I think you are one of the kindest, helpful & caring people on the forum .

To set the record straight, I have had FitSaxe on Ignore a number of times when she gets in her bullying stance. In fact I have had her on Ignore for a awhile this afternoon to cool the forum down and to prevent her from sending ugly threats again in a PM. I'm don't think I'll be missing anything of real importance by doing so. Maybe some insults, but as I said, nothing of importance. So please reconsider and just hit ignore on her profile.

what she said!

 

[cataddict]

what she said!

+1, or is it +2?