Cathe's rotations...

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I have never checked them out before but was looking at the January one and saw this:

"Wed: Power Hour plus 400 walking lunges, 500 sit ups, and 10 sets of 8 push ups"


I'm sorry, but doesn't that seem like overkill? Boy, if that is just one day out of seven it looks like a recipe for overtraining to me.....

Anyone else think so?? :)

Edited to add: Aren't there atleast 400 walking lunges IN POWER HOUR ALONE???? }(
 
Hi Janice.:)

I am actually doing this rotation right now! I just finished my first week and although is super tough, it is something I am capable of doing.

It really depends on each individual. For a pretty fit person this would not be over-training. It is up to the individual to decide if this is too much for him/her. Cathe even put a note in w/this rotation stating some situations where one should considering cutting this rotation back a bit.

People thought the Boot Camp rotation (aug 05 I believe) was overkill/overtraining but again, it depends on the individual.

HTH!:)
 
Janice, I did this rotation last month & it was great. The 400 walking lunges were very doable, as well as the push-ups. Unfortunately, for me, 500 sit ups will never happen. Those hurt my hip flexors and my lower back some. I'd rather just do crunches, and core work.

I did monitor what I was eating in terms of getting adequate calories to sustain this level of training. I tried my best to sleep enough too, but that continues to be a challenge for me, as I love to stay up late on the computer.
;-)
 
this falls under the line of her boot camp rotation. just a month of more intense workouts to pick up the pace and shock the body through platues. and walking lunges are just how they sound lunging while walking fowards. i do some down my hallway when nobody is home while doing housework. makes you look silly but they are fun and you get a burn in them.

as for just doing workouts any old time yeah this could be overkill for some but it just depends on the person. i might do 2hours of a workout ONE day a week and the rest are a moderate 1hour 15minutes(including my stretching).

and you would be surprised how some ppl find this a normal workout(atheltes for example)and wouldn't think a thing of it.

kassia



When they discover the center of the universe, a lot of people will be
disappointed to discover they are not it -- Bernard Bailey
 
Another way I look at this Janice, and I know it's only my .02 cents worth, is, not too many years ago, we all worked this hard or a whole lot more. People started their days early and did their daily work or chores without a lot of the commodities we have today. Think of farmers, ranchers, construction workers, etc. Or housewives without any appliances, *shudders*.

Yes, I can do these workouts, usually time barely permitting, but unfortunately, my *ss sits down almost all day. I try to park as far as possible (unless, I need to hurry & clock in) & I almost always use the stairs & get my butt moving around throughout the day, as much as possible. I remember when I was younger, and didn't drive, I walked everywhere I went. It was just an everyday thing. Now, I wouldn't even walk to the corner store. It's uncommon. How ridiculous?!!! I still manage to feel lazy, like I've been sitting all day, (maybe that's why I love hi-lo so much? Hmmm?) Again, I only speak for myself, as I am a nurse, but I sit in front of a computer most days, all day.
 
Hello,

I don't do my walking lunges with PH. Too much for me, however when my boys are outside playing we do them together. Not 400, proberly somewhere in the neighborhood of 100. My boys drop out before I finish and comment on how strong I am.

I modify where needed.


Kim
 
Janice,

Well, you picked a fine rotation to look at LOL! Most of Cathe's rotations aren't of this intensity. She seems to like to put together uber-intense workouts in Jan, Feb and August. Otherwise, most rotations feature hour long workouts; sometimes even shorter. And they all don't focus on fat-burning. Check out a few others. There's quite a variety.

Cheers,
Sandra
 
I understand what you guys are saying. Even in my fittest day, however, I would NEVER NEVER be able to do PH + 400 lunges and still workout the next day!!! I probably couldn't even walk. But even in my fittest day, I was always so sore. Guess that is just me. I don't know how the overall tiredness and soreness would not be overwhelming in a rotation like this....

Maybe I should make it my GOAL, lol

I will have to check out the others. Thanks!
 
I don't know about 400 lunges and 500 push-ups etc. Didn't the wisdom used to be that if you had to do that many of anything to see results, you weren't doing it right in the first place? Not being critical here, I just don't get the point of 400 lunges (or similar). Wouldn't most of us get the same results with say, 100 lunges or 50 push-ups?

Sparrow

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming ‘Wow - what a ride!’ — Peter Sage
 
>I don't know about 400 lunges and 500 push-ups etc. Didn't
>the wisdom used to be that if you had to do that many of
>anything to see results, you weren't doing it right in the
>first place? Not being critical here, I just don't get the
>point of 400 lunges (or similar). Wouldn't most of us get the
>same results with say, 100 lunges or 50 push-ups?
>

I agree!

If you're doing them right, and training SMART instead of just training HARD, then fewer reps would be and effective and efficient use of your exercise energy and time.
 
I started late, am currently on the middle of week 3 of this rotation. I also did the August rotation plus 15,000 yards a week swimming. This time I am using a rebounder to minimize impact, and am only swimming 10,000 per week due to time. August I had 2 weeks vacation. What I have found out with this type of rotation, is that it is a real kick in the pants, prove to yourself you can do it type thing. In August, I had a real fear I might injure muself. If anything, I felt better, stronger, and had less of the aches and pains in my ole middle age body. The same thing is occurring now. I seem to be extra energized, and feeling good.

And I am not a young spring chicken, I am 44, have two kids, so have to get up early in the morning to get my Cathe work done, and do my swimming 45 minutes at a time at lunch.
 
I personally find it hard to discredit how knowledgeable and effective Cathe can be, even at times that she shakes things up a bit with these rotations. She obviously looks better & better every year. She's offering options and it's always up to us if we choose to take them or not. There's even a disclaimer at the end of her rotation. While she has many, many naysayers such as at VF, I only see evidence that Cathe looks fabulous, fit and healthy.
 
I did this rotation last month and it was awesome. Yes I did get sick of 1 1/2 hour w/o's by the end of the month and wouldn't want to do it month after month, but it is a great plateau buster and also an excellent rotation to have just after the holidays.

The rotation is very doable as written. There are some days that aren't as bad as they look on paper and then there were some that were!

It was a great rotation!
 
I haven't read up on free syle training but due to all the talk on this forum about it, my guess is that Cathe is trying to incorporate some of that into her rotations (high rep, no to low weights). I usually do not follow this intense of a rotation but I like having the option to shake things up this way in the summer when I'm out of school and on more of a relaxed schedule. If I feel really great or want to shake things up a lot or lose a couple of pounds before a special event, I participate in a really intense rotation such as this one. It is not for everyone and I wouldn't follow such an intense rotation all the time. To each his own. I do what works for me and if I try something and it doesn't work for me I adjust it to suit my personal needs and preferances.
Angela:7
 
>>I don't know about 400 lunges and 500 push-ups etc. Didn't
>>the wisdom used to be that if you had to do that many of
>>anything to see results, you weren't doing it right in the
>>first place? Not being critical here, I just don't get the
>>point of 400 lunges (or similar). Wouldn't most of us get
>the
>>same results with say, 100 lunges or 50 push-ups?
>>
>
>I agree!
>
>If you're doing them right, and training SMART instead of just
>training HARD, then fewer reps would be and effective and
>efficient use of your exercise energy and time.
>

One way of training is not necessarily smarter than another way of training. Exercising is a very individual thing. What works for you may be something completely different from what works for another. Are you saying or implying that one who follows this rotation as written is only training hard and not training smart? I do apologize if I'm reading too much into your statment.
Angela
 
>I haven't read up on free syle training but due to all the
>talk on this forum about it, my guess is that Cathe is trying
>to incorporate some of that into her rotations (high rep, no
>to low weights)...

>Angela:7

I, too,was thinking Cathe was trying to infuse some freestyle flavor in this rotation. So now, I want read up on this for sure, since Gayle posted raving reviews on her 10K thread.
;-)
 
RE: Question: When Cathe says

I think she means sit-ups, old fashion, which is very hard. I can do maybe 200, before I have to switch to crunches, ow,ow,ow.
 
RE: Question: When Cathe says

I modified very little on this rotation but sit-ups was definitely something I had to modify. I need to work on my sit-ups, these are very hard for me. I had to switch to crunches each time this was on the rotation.
 
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