Vegan, healthy cooking substitutions?

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Cathlete
Hi all, I am not a vegan, but I am interested in trying to consume far fewer dairy products than I do now (for lots of reasons). So I am wondering, what do you substitute for dairy products when you cook? I am looking for specific brand names of stuff you really like to substitute for milk and cheese in cooking and baking.

I am using Blue Diamond unsweetened vanilla almond milk right now in smoothies and stuff, and I really like it, but I have not cooked or baked with it. Does it work (I'm assuming you'd use original to replace normal milk)? Are those vegan cheeses actually good?

I rarely use or eat yogurt so I don't need a sub for that too much, but any suggestions would be nice. Are there any good soy yogurts?
 
For milk, soy milk (unless there are allergy problems) often works best (it's got a thicker texture than rice milk or almond milk). Silk is a brand that's easy to find and comes in a variety of types (vanilla, plain unsweetened, original, chocolate). Use either the original, the plain or the vanilla in baking, depending on what you are making. The vanilla will, of course, add a bit of vanilla flavor, while the plain would be good if the recipe has a lot of other sweetener already in, or if you want something less sweet.

Hemp milk is another thicker milk. I've tried 4 brands, and only "Living Harvest" brand tastes good, IMO. The others taste either 'green" or "green and brown' .

Just use either of these milks in a one-to-one ratio in place of dairy milk. If you need buttermilk, add a spoonful of lemon juice to a cup of milk and let sit.

Another milk to try for smoothies and just drinking is Pacific brand Hazelnut milk. VERY good!

Most soy yogurts are pretty good, IMO. There is also a rice based yogurt out, but the texture is kind of rubbery. I can't find it locally, but there is also a coconut-milk based yogurt (I've tried the same brand's 'ice cream' and it is delish!) : http://www.coolhunting.com/archives/2008/07/made_with_cocon.php

Most vegan cheeses are pretty disgusting, IMO (kind of like cheap Velveeta in texture), but there are some that are supposed to be pretty good (I don't find them to be so. I pretty much don't use cheese substitutes, except when I use "Chreese" brand pasta and cheese mixes). www.veganessentials.com and www.veganstore.com carry some. Read the reviews to find some you think sound good.

HTH!
 
Like Kathryn said, there's so much variety out there for non-dairy milk. I use light Silk (works for both sweet and savory cooking/baking), but I really enjoy any kind of nut milk or hemp milk too. So Delicious is coming out with a Coconut-based milk beverage that I'm dying to try. I'd also like to try their coconut-based yogurt and ice cream, but none of my stores carry them. Earth Balance is a wonderful butter substitute with no trans-fats and can be used just like butter in baking.

Once you quit eating cheese, you'll find that your cravings really go away. Some people say that cheese has a substance in it that is literally addicting. I don't know about that, but I do know that people can find it hard to give up. I don't eat much of them, but vegan cheeses have come a long way. The Tofutti brand makes cheese slices, cream cheese and sour cream and I like them all. They used to be made with hydrogenated fats but no longer are, so I eat them once in a while. I really like the Follow Your Heart brand--they make a delicious non-dairy mayo called Vegenaise and their cheeses are good (they actually melt!), but a bit high in fat. I've heard good things about a vegan cheese called Shreese which I plan to try next time I order from veganessentials.com. We've also tried "Teese" which is okay (too high-fat). There's also a brand called Dr. Cow that makes artisinal aged cheese from nuts. Those are very very tasty, but pretty expensive for a teeny amount. For everyday life and stuff you can actually find, Tofutti is probably your best bet.

I love make vegan cheese sauces with nutritional yeast too. Very tasty and easy. Nutritional yeast is also excellent sprinkled on popcorn. It has a nutty, cheesy taste that I just love.

Have fun! There's a lot to explore

Amy
 
Ditto what they said. Also, you can use silken tofu to make sauces. So for example, I was making lasagna - now I still used regular cheese, but instead of making a dairy based bechamel sauce, the recipe used silken tofu, blended with a bit of soy milk to thin it out a bit and seasoning added. You can also use the silken tofu in any way you might use sour cream or yogurt or even mayo, depending on the recipe (again, you'll need to stir it up and season it). It's super versatile once you play with it a bit.
 
Thanks you guys so much for taking the time to respond. Very helpful and I can't wait to try some of this stuff, especially those coconut-based items. mmmmm
 
I agree completely with everyone's suggestions, and I'd recommend checking out The Veganomicon (by Isa Chandra Moskowitz and Tery Hope Romero) for all kinds of fabulous recipes and tips. They have the best recipe for tofu ricotta (used in both eggplant rollatini and lasagne) and lots of suggestions for substitutions, as well as like a hundred other fantastic and delicious recipes. ;)
 
Vegan protein powder options?

While we're at it.... I'm in the market for a new tub of protein powder. I've used BSN and loved it but I'm trying to get away from the artificial sweeters. I'd be interested in trying a non-dairy protein powder.

I tried hemp powder and, while I loved the fiber content, the flavor....yuk! Also, I found it super grainy.

Any other options? Kathryn, I know you've been talking about a brown rice powder but when I surfed for it it looked to be pretty $$$$$$$:eek:.

Alternatives? Something suitable for my oatmeal?

Sorry if I'm hijacking!
 
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For cheese I"ve really gotten into Almond Cheese and Rice Cheese...It's a little hard to find, but a company called Lisamatti makes it. It is made from almonds or from rice, but is not considered dairy free as it does contain a protein from dairy called casien. But its got a lot less crap in it and is minimally processed as opposed to regular cheese. It melts great, and cooks great, and the best part is it only contains 1 GRAM OF FAT PER SERVING!!! It comes in jalepeno jack flavor too, which is my favorite!
Veganaise is great as a mayonaise spread, just used it sparingly as it is high in calories.

As far as protein powders for the gal trying to go whey-free, I love rice protien and pea protein. In fact, Arbonne makes an awesome pea protein powder in chocolate, vanilla, or chai latte, and they are delish! Also, a company called Jay Robb makes a lovely Rice Protein and all their stuff is minimally processed and has very few ingredients making it easy to digest.
Hope that helps!!
 
While we're at it.... I'm in the market for a new tub of protein powder. I've used BSN and loved it but I'm trying to get away from the artificial sweeters. I'd be interested in trying a non-dairy protein powder.

I tried hemp powder and, while I loved the fiber content, the flavor....yuk! Also, I found it super grainy.

Any other options? Kathryn, I know you've been talking about a brown rice powder but when I surfed for it it looked to be pretty $$$$$$$:eek:.

Alternatives? Something suitable for my oatmeal?

Sorry if I'm hijacking!

Check out the protein & supplements page at Vegan Essentials here. I think they have pretty much every vegan protein supplement there is, at very nice prices. I've tried Vega (it's OK-tasting, especially with lots of frozen berries, but not great. The pea protein is actually decent).

Lisa
 
Thanks Jodelle and Lisa!

Jodelle - thanks for the tips on the different powders to try. I've tried a sample of the Jay Robb a while back - I do like the minimal processing.

Lisa - thanks for the link to Vegan Essentials! I'll have to peruse that soon.
 
I really like the Follow Your Heart brand--they make a delicious non-dairy mayo called Vegenaise


I've heard good things about a vegan cheese called Shreese ..There's also a brand called Dr. Cow that makes artisinal aged cheese from nuts.
Amy,
I also like Vegenaise (I usually get the one made with grapeseed oil).

I've tried Shreese, and didn't like it (but I don't like most cheese subs).

I did try Dr. Cow and liked it. I'd gone vegan before I went to Paris, so I never tasted any of the European cheeses, but Dr. Cow was supposed to have the same type of flavor. I decided to try it on my work colleagues, who may have tried more cheeses than I did. Of the 4 people who tried it, two split it out immediately, one said she didn't like it, and the other was gave me a polite but very lukewarm reaction to it. It does have a slightly vinegary tang to it that may be unpleasant to some. It is also VERY pricey (the photo they have of it on www.veganessentials.com makse it look like it's a piece about a cup size, but it's small enough to fit in the palm of your hand.

Another option for vegan cheeses (I haven't tried it myself, but have heard good feedback about it) is to make your own, with recipes from "The Ultimate Uncheese Cookbook."

There are also some recipes for 'cheeses' in raw foods cookbooks, soaking and grinding nuts and letting them ferment (which is pretty much what Dr Cow does, but you can control the amount of fermentation that goes on to tweak the flavor, from mild to strong).
 
Nutritional yeast is also excellent sprinkled on popcorn. It has a nutty, cheesy taste that I just love.
MMMMM... try spraying the popcorn with tamari (soy sauce), then sprinkling on the nutritional yeast. Very yummy! (also, cats LOVE nutritional yeast...though both humans and cats can get gas from eating it in too large a quantity, which varies from individual to individual).
 
I tried hemp powder and, while I loved the fiber content, the flavor....yuk! Also, I found it super grainy.

Any other options? Kathryn, I know you've been talking about a brown rice powder but when I surfed for it it looked to be pretty $$$$$$$:eek:.
What hemp protein did you try?
I've found only one ---Nutiva---that I like the flavor of (tastes 'nutty,'' while others taste 'green' or 'brown').

Someone just asked the same question over at VF, so I'll cut and paste my own answer from there:
I've tasted quite a few, and though none of them is really delicious with just water, there are a few I like:
Vega Smoothie infusion: it has yellow pea, hemp, sprouted flax and rice as its protein base. Be sure to get this and NOT Vega meal replacement, which is very healthy, but tastes like dirt--it has chlorella in, which has a very distinctive flavor). 14 gm protein/serving. It has a very neutral flavor, and can just be mixed with juice or non-dairy milk and a bit of banana.

SunWarrior : It has bio-fermented sprouted brown rice as its protein source (and claims to have a protein makeup with a 98% correlation to mother's milk. The chocolate and vanilla are both good. The "unflavored" is icky. 15 grams of protein/serving.

Nitrufusion : Brown rice, pea and artichoke protein. Comes in vanilla, chocolate, tropical, berry and mocha (with caffeine). I've just tried the vanilla. The flavor is very good, but the texture is a bit like very fine sand. 25 gms protein/serving.

You can find these (and more info about them) at www.veganessentials.com . They have quite a selection of protein powders (one of their owners is a power lifter) and many of them have sample packs you can try (so when you find they tastes aweful, like some rice protein powder I tried recently, you don't have to figure out how to get rid of an entire 20 servings or so).

HTH!
 
Vegan Milks

You just have to be careful with your other milks (as well as regular) as they can contain alot of sugars, especially the flavored ones, and those added sugars can pack on the pounds. Almond Breeze Unsweetened Original or Unsweetened Vanilla has no sugar and has a nice light nutty flavor and no artificial ingredients. However if I switched to the basic original or the sweetened vanilla, one 8oz glass has 7-9grams of sugar. The World Health Organization recommends no more than 6-10% of your calories should come from sugar, and even those should just be sugar from whole food sources like fruits, veggies and grains, as sugar has no nutrional value. And many Americans already eat far beyond that...
 
Hey vegans, I am officially trying veganism, and am really confused about soy. I've been reading lots of different articles/websites that pretty much say any non-fermented soy is bad for you.

What do you guys think? I have been trying to follow Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle, and trying to get about 30% of my calories from protein. Now that I'm not eating meat or dairy, I don't know how to get this at every meal. For those of you that try to keep your protein up, do you have to supplement with protein powder? Or do you feel you don't need that much protein?

I feel like I am getting obsessed with this garbage! : ) Thanks for any help.
 
Not a Vegan...

I"m not a vegan, but I would recommend staying around 30% for your protein needs, only because that's a pretty good ratio for building and maintaining muscle mass especially if you are doing STS and doing a good amount of weight training. Of course beans will get you adequate protein, and tofu, and quinoa is a great source of a complete protein as well, but you can also supplement with different protein powders like rice, and pea protein and nut butters. I like the protein that Arbonne makes called Figure 8. It tastes good and mixes well.
Keep a food journal for a week and see where you are in your protien needs. You may be surprised. Say you are eating 1500 calories a day with 30% of that being protein. Breaking it down - that's 450 calories from protein during the day and breaking that down that's 112.5 grams of protein for the day, and break that down to 6 small meals a day and you would be eating about 18.5 grams of protein at each meal. And for example if one of your meals was one cup quinoa with one cup beans, there is 18grams of protein right there! And for another example if another meal was almond butter sandwich with sprouted grain bread you would be looking at another 18 grams of protein.
Hope that helps make it look a bit easier. Just starting logging a food journal and see what your doing and where you can make some changes.
:)
 
I used to do high protein diets and have over a long time supplemented my diet with protein powders just like most people here. I never felt really good with the high protein intake, disclaimer: I think 30 % protein is high! ;) While doing research for a health issue and the best treatment I read a lot about diet and have come to the conclusion that we Americans are obsessed with protein. Protein is a essential nutrient but we don't need large amounts of protein.

The recommendation is to eat about .8 to 1 gram of protein for each kilogram of bodyweight (1 kilogram is 2.2 lbs). The average adult needs about 60 to 70 g.

I think the confusion comes from the fact that proteins are made up from amino acids. We have a need for amino acids not protein. Humans cannot make 9 of the 22 amino acids that are needed and therefore must be consumed with diet. We need all of these 9 essential amino acids for our body to make protein.

The claim is that fish, meat, milk and eggs are high quality protein and can be easier absorbed by our body but I found little credible evidence that this is actually true and instead I found lots of references that the intake of large amounts of animal protein, particulary milk and meat cause health problems over the long term. There is overwhelming evidence that casein from milk (and dairy products) promotes cancer (it doesn't cause cancer but promotes cancer growth). Despite of that high amounts of protein are still recommended but if you really look closely it is mostly sponsored by the meat and dairy associations.

Soybeans, quinoa and spinach are high quality protein. Other protein sources of non-animal origin usually have all of the essential amino acids, but the amounts of one or two of these amino acids may be low. For example, grains are lower in lysine (an essential amino acid) and legumes are lower in methionine than those protein sources designated as high quality protein. They still deliver essential amino acids which are necessary for the body to build protein. We don't have to eat all essential amino acids we every meal as long as you have a variety of of different foods that contain those amino acids over the day or even over several days.

These days I don't count calories and macronutrients but checking through my journals my protein intake is about 10 to 20 %. With the exception of fish once or twice a week I have gone vegan. I have never felt better, I have blood tests done every couple of months and my protein levels were not effected at all by the change in diet, what was effected were my cholesterol levels which dropped to 150 total cholesterol with my good cholesterol being higher than the bad cholesterol and my other blood work is off the charts.

In the meantime, I am working out 5 to 6 times per week, including long distance running, I am visibly building muscle and losing bodyfat.

If you are concerned about your protein intake you may want to consider spirulina powder. Spirulina is a easily digestible, contains all 9 essential amino acids and is in fact second only to egg with regards to usable protein.

Sorry this was so long-winded. HTH.
 
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