Everyone Vote!!
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http://ezstorestuff.home.comcast.net/emote/signexactly.gif[/img] On campus today, little signs were posted everywhere saying "VOTE for Something". I'm gald we have the right to vote too.http://ezstorestuff.home.comcast.net/emote/applause.gif[/img]
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trevor
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Whether this causes flames or not I am not really too concerned. Avoiding discussing important things like who is going to be the next leader of the free world because we are afraid of hurting feelings just is not a good enough reason to me.
Having said that I would like to add a couple of my opinions without stumping for my choice for president. Number one, if you are voting for one candidate just because you hate the other candidate's looks or mannerisms, then please do NOT vote at all. A few overly - emotional neighbors of mine are going to do just that. A candidate's looks or delivery of speech have absolutely nothing to do with their intelligence or how good of a leader they may be. We need to focus on SUBSTANCE over STYLE and get to the issues. In order to cast an intelligent, well thought-out vote for a candidate you need to have a legitimate reason to cast said vote. Number two, look at the track records of each candidate. Look at Senate voting records. What a guys says he's going to do might be quite different from what his history says he is most likely to do. Number three, throw away the Vietnam and National Guard issues. For the most part, they have nothing to do with the issues of today. There are bigger things to worry about. Number four, consider who the potential First Lady and Vice President is going to be. It's a package deal. Number five, find an unbiased news source to help form your opinions on each candidate. Most media sources swing subtly to the left. Fox tends to swing to the right. Use the internet. There are plenty of unbiased sources you can look up for sources on how much, for instance, a candidate's proposed health plan is really going to cost each of the taxpayers in this country. Don't base your vote on that completely flawed Michael Moore flick, which contains some 60 half truths and outright lies. Don't base your vote on the upcoming anti-Kerry flick on Sinclaire, I think it's gonna be.
I'd like to conclude with stating that, in reality, both parties represent the same thing. Republican, or Democrat, you can bet two things are going to happen-----taxes will increase and government will continue to get bigger and more invasive.
Just my opinions!
Trevor
Having said that I would like to add a couple of my opinions without stumping for my choice for president. Number one, if you are voting for one candidate just because you hate the other candidate's looks or mannerisms, then please do NOT vote at all. A few overly - emotional neighbors of mine are going to do just that. A candidate's looks or delivery of speech have absolutely nothing to do with their intelligence or how good of a leader they may be. We need to focus on SUBSTANCE over STYLE and get to the issues. In order to cast an intelligent, well thought-out vote for a candidate you need to have a legitimate reason to cast said vote. Number two, look at the track records of each candidate. Look at Senate voting records. What a guys says he's going to do might be quite different from what his history says he is most likely to do. Number three, throw away the Vietnam and National Guard issues. For the most part, they have nothing to do with the issues of today. There are bigger things to worry about. Number four, consider who the potential First Lady and Vice President is going to be. It's a package deal. Number five, find an unbiased news source to help form your opinions on each candidate. Most media sources swing subtly to the left. Fox tends to swing to the right. Use the internet. There are plenty of unbiased sources you can look up for sources on how much, for instance, a candidate's proposed health plan is really going to cost each of the taxpayers in this country. Don't base your vote on that completely flawed Michael Moore flick, which contains some 60 half truths and outright lies. Don't base your vote on the upcoming anti-Kerry flick on Sinclaire, I think it's gonna be.
I'd like to conclude with stating that, in reality, both parties represent the same thing. Republican, or Democrat, you can bet two things are going to happen-----taxes will increase and government will continue to get bigger and more invasive.
Just my opinions!
Trevor
benvonwojo
Cathlete
While you (women) vote just think about how women in Moslem countries have no right to vote, drive, go anywhere without the permission of a male relative, and cannot run for office. Just be thankful for everything we have here in this beautiful country regardless of the outcome of this election.
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trevor
Guest
Now Candi!
Have a little faith in me, will ya girl!? LOL!! Does seeing my name evoke anger in you automatically? Gosh I hope not.
I certainly think we are in a heap of trouble if the one candidate gets elected, and I certainly have my choice made, but I prefer to take the high road with this. I honestly consider most of you my online friends and I have learned to try not to be as blunt with some of my posts, I think.
I just want everyone to be as informed as they can be.
I'll post something later to piss ya off Candi! }(
T.
Have a little faith in me, will ya girl!? LOL!! Does seeing my name evoke anger in you automatically? Gosh I hope not.
I certainly think we are in a heap of trouble if the one candidate gets elected, and I certainly have my choice made, but I prefer to take the high road with this. I honestly consider most of you my online friends and I have learned to try not to be as blunt with some of my posts, I think.
I just want everyone to be as informed as they can be.
I'll post something later to piss ya off Candi! }(
T.
I second that emotion! As a pseudo-historian (MA but no PhD LOL) w/a concentration around the American Revolution, I'm very fond of reminding our fine citizens that people fought & died so we'd have the right to vote. OK so that white men would have the right to vote but what the heck, we've come a long way baby.
So do more than exercise your bodies, exercise your rights!
So do more than exercise your bodies, exercise your rights!
Danna --
Thanks for posting this message! As a 33-year-old woman in this country who has never voted, I am ashamed of myself I used to rationalize it by thinking that my vote doesn't matter anyway. For me, the political talk is so much BS that choosing between two candidates seemed silly and insignificant. What difference would it make? BUT, I recently saw an episode of the Oprah show about voting that really gave me a reason to voice my opinion. A young hispanic woman stated that the reason she did not vote was because she didn't believe either of the candidates were interested in her issues (so what difference would it make). Oprah said (paraphrasing here) -- "But that is exactly why they're not interested, because they know you don't vote. If you vote, your issues will become a priority". Even though I consider myself an intelligent woman, that concept had escaped me until that moment.
I registered the next day and will be voting this year. As women, we must have our voices heard. It is my duty to make sure our issues become a priority. And, perhaps, we can set a good example for our fellow women in other countries who do not YET have the rights that they so deserve.
Shonie
Thanks for posting this message! As a 33-year-old woman in this country who has never voted, I am ashamed of myself
I used to rationalize it by thinking that my vote doesn't matter anyway. For me, the political talk is so much BS that choosing between two candidates seemed silly and insignificant. What difference would it make? BUT, I recently saw an episode of the Oprah show about voting that really gave me a reason to voice my opinion. A young hispanic woman stated that the reason she did not vote was because she didn't believe either of the candidates were interested in her issues (so what difference would it make). Oprah said (paraphrasing here) -- "But that is exactly why they're not interested, because they know you don't vote. If you vote, your issues will become a priority". Even though I consider myself an intelligent woman, that concept had escaped me until that moment. I registered the next day and will be voting this year. As women, we must have our voices heard. It is my duty to make sure our issues become a priority. And, perhaps, we can set a good example for our fellow women in other countries who do not YET have the rights that they so deserve.
Shonie
endorphin_junkie
Cathlete
That is awesome Shonie!!! Every voice matters. When I was growing up I couldn't wait to vote as it was such a time of excitement, debate and discussion in our home. It's sometimes very hard to tune out the rhetoric and tune in to the real issues as they are too often clouded by the cult of personality. I find that with a variety of perspectives, historical reference and quiet personal discernment I can vote with confidence. I will admit that occasionally I just hold my nose and vote but I always vote!
Take Care
Laurie
Take Care
Laurie
Hi Ladies,
If you haven't seen the HBO movie "Iron Jawed Angels," you must see it. Although it is too late to register for this election, it will certainly make you appreciate what the suffragists did to earn the right for women to vote! Truly amazing story! I think it might be available in rental stores now.
All young women (and all women for that matter) should see this movie!
Tina
If you haven't seen the HBO movie "Iron Jawed Angels," you must see it. Although it is too late to register for this election, it will certainly make you appreciate what the suffragists did to earn the right for women to vote! Truly amazing story! I think it might be available in rental stores now.
All young women (and all women for that matter) should see this movie!
Tina
Trevor, well said!
To be quite honest, and hopefully not offend anyone, but I think that a person should only be allowed to vote if they have done their research on both candidates and then vote according to the voter's own views and beliefs. I would hope that all voters would listen and read beyond what is on a TV ad. Unfortunately, I know way too many people who believe everything they see on the ads and don't do some investigating on their own. Voting is a privilege and with that privilege comes responsibility. Therefore it should not be taken lightly. We are very lucky to live in a country that is free.
Sorry if I offended anyone, but I take voting very seriously.
To be quite honest, and hopefully not offend anyone, but I think that a person should only be allowed to vote if they have done their research on both candidates and then vote according to the voter's own views and beliefs. I would hope that all voters would listen and read beyond what is on a TV ad. Unfortunately, I know way too many people who believe everything they see on the ads and don't do some investigating on their own. Voting is a privilege and with that privilege comes responsibility. Therefore it should not be taken lightly. We are very lucky to live in a country that is free.
Sorry if I offended anyone, but I take voting very seriously.
dogonyx
Cathlete
I totally agree, Kristi!
I have heard people (on T.V. news) who are planning on voting and they can't even name who our current vice president is!
It makes me cringe when I hear celebrities BEGGING people to vote. I would rather only concerned citizens voted. (Not that I think there should be a "test" or anything.)
I spend a lot of time trying to get informed and it seems impossible to sort through what is true so, in a way, I don't feel educated on the issues enough to vote and yet I know I am more educated than the average Joe Q. Citizen.
Great thread!!!!
Shelley
I have heard people (on T.V. news) who are planning on voting and they can't even name who our current vice president is!
It makes me cringe when I hear celebrities BEGGING people to vote. I would rather only concerned citizens voted. (Not that I think there should be a "test" or anything.)
I spend a lot of time trying to get informed and it seems impossible to sort through what is true so, in a way, I don't feel educated on the issues enough to vote and yet I know I am more educated than the average Joe Q. Citizen.
Great thread!!!!
Shelley
Voting is a right, not a privilege. DRIVING is a privilege & a topic for another thread. And it is exactly our country's freedom that gives us the right to vote without restrictions. I have a strong belief in the "masses," for lack of a better word. Not always crazy about people as individuals, but (with a few very notable exceptions), American citizens have done what's right for our country.
i don't want to go off on too much of a tangent here, but it absolutely drives me insane to hear celebrities spouting off about their political opinions... and it bothers me even more that there are people who actually listen to them. just because they are in the public eye (and therefore, have the public's ear) does not mean they are more knowledgeable about political issues or anything for that matter. as alice cooper so aptly put it (referring to himself as a "celebrity"), "we don't exactly sit around reading the washington post all day."
(I tried to edit my post to say that voting is a right. Privilege was the wrong word.)
I agree that if someone does not vote then they have no room to complain. Everyone's vote is important, but it is surprising how many people say "My vote won't change anything." It would if every person who said that would have voted in the first place.
In any case, I hope everyone gets out to vote, even if my guy does not win. LOL
I agree that if someone does not vote then they have no room to complain. Everyone's vote is important, but it is surprising how many people say "My vote won't change anything." It would if every person who said that would have voted in the first place.
In any case, I hope everyone gets out to vote, even if my guy does not win. LOL