Cathe's June Rotation - Week 1 - CHECKIN HERE IF YOU WANT!

>Forgot to add: Yes, I've been thinking about the weighted
>vest. I need to go look and see if I can find one, and see if
>I like it.
>They sound neat. I lifted about 48lbs (my plates do not come
>in 5 #'s increments) over my head. I think I could go just a
>little heavier, but not much. So the vest might be a good
>idea.

Let me know if you find one and where ok? I have a chance to go at the end of next week while I'm in Maine, so I just have to figure out where!
 
I have considered a weighted vest and was going to put it on my August b-day list(42 oh my). I don't have room for a barbell stand.

The intensities were incredible. I started with the Pyramids for 5 weeks, and then went into a bootcamp, ME, cardio and weights rotation for 5 weeks. During this time I was losing the last of my weight, I started in November with WW. The combination of healthy eating and these videos has really sculpted me. Working out with 40 less pounds is also an added bonus. That was probably why the step and intervals was not hard, the last time I did it I was much heavier.
 
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I have a wt vest It is adjustable to 40lbs.I love it I ordered mine from qvc affilate readyset sports (off qvc website)I think it was $ 89
I love mine well worth the $$$.Imax blast only is the blast no step routine . I don't have the actual imax 2 dvd but have it vhs I have the terminator dvd so I used it and did alot of fast forwarding.Instead of the recovery I used that time to find the next blast.It worked well.I was tinking of buying the dvd but this works just as well but might buy imax1 on dvd for this purpose-blast only.
 
I have a weighted vest as well and i think it's fantastic. I don't have to lift as much on my barbell since my vest is already at 20lbs (i can add up to 20 more lbs to it if i want). I would highly recommend you get one.
Today i did back, 10-10-10 and abs...i felt invigorated. I love this rotation cuz we're incorporating a bit of strength and cardio on the same day (i usually do cardio and strength on separate days so it's a good change). Can't remember what's on for tomorrow but it should be good.
Patricia
 
Hi everyone,
I usually do not post much here but I too am following the June rotation and a check in would really keep me motivated. Yesterday I did S&H legs and Step and Intervals. I only used 25lbs for lunges and squats. My legs tend to bulk very easily so I don't like to go too heavy. Today I did S&H back, but I have yet to do the cardio because I didn't have enough time this am and after my daughter's trip I am feeling too tired. Hopefully, I will be able to do it. Till tomorrow....Phyllis:)
 
Hi all - just getting ready to go do day 3 but thought I'd drop by and check in - I'm really enjoying this.

Dorothy - sounds like the Intensity series is really what I need. I'm going to try a rotation in the early fall, when it doesn't matter as much if I kill myself - LOL Seriously, it might be a good time for a body shock!

Sheila - I'm going to look for a weighted vest - I'm getting to a place where it would be useful. I still can't believe you do Blast Only - doesn't that kill you? I can't even make it through all of the blasts as they are in IMAX2, nevermind doing them one after another. Are you suicidal? just kidding. You must have good cardio ability!

Patricia (Amni) - I don't usually mix cardio and weights either (except for Bootcamp, etc.) so maybe its the thing that will shock our bodys into behaving for us! hehe

Phyllis - thanks for coming out of lurkdom! Did you make it back yesterday to finish the cardio? Who dares to interfere with your workout time! just kidding. Life just gets in the way doesn't it?

Well, off to do the workout. I'll check-in later - hopefully I'm still walking!

Over and out!

Punky (Jodi)
 
Hi everyone!

Last night (Day #2) I goofed I did S&H Shoulders, segment of ab hits and 10-10-10. When I looked at the rotation it was supposed to be S&H Back NOT Shoulders. So I'll just switch tonight.

I'm really enjoying these rotations Cathe's been putting together. I abosolutely loved the May rotation. It had so much variety! So I figured if I didn't like the June rotation, I'd go back and do May's again -- but I like this one too!;-)
 
Well, I survived yesterday. I ran 4 miles yesterday instead of 10-10-10. I did Slow & Heavy back like I was supposed to though. I am not much of a runner, but Cathe sure has made a difference in my endurance. I think I will try for 6 next time.

I am having to exercise earlier today than normal. I am not a morning exerciser. I don't know how some of you do it before 5am. I am headed to Silver Dollar City in Branson, MO in a little while so I have to get busy so I don't get behind in the rotation. I am looking forward to MIC hi/low. I love that part. I am not too crazy about the step portion.

Enough gabbing,
Christi
 
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Hi all,

I'm going to do my check-in later because its busy at work, but I wanted to post a copy of this article that someone pointed me to when I was asking why weights before cardio. I hope you find it interesting - I certainly did. I found a couple of other very interesting ones that I'll post in another message later. Have a good day everyone!


I got it at:

http://www.communities.ninemsn.com.au/sharpcurves/weightsbeforecardio.msnw

Quote:
I read and hear alot about doing cardio. There are reasons for doing cardio after your weight session and not before. The best to date, I recently read on the site of www.femalemuscle.com , which we have a link here for. Check out other info from this site by going to our links on the left of the page.
The following information I have copied and pasted from this site as it explains more clearly, what I have been trying to tell people for ages.

Cheers Chyna

BARBELLS BEFORE BIKES: STOP DOING CARDIO BEFORE YOU WEIGHT TRAIN!
by Larry Pepe

It kills me every time I see it. One person after another shows up at the gym, raring to go. They check in at the front desk, put their gear away and make a beeline for the cardio equipment. Somewhere between 20 and 60 minutes later they drag themselves off that treadmill and on to the gym floor to start the weight training portion of their session. This may be the most common training mistake I have seen in roughly 15 years of training in gyms from New York to California. There are a number of reasons why this training sequence can not only minimize your results but also holds the potential for injury.

Let's make a few things clear before we get started. If you want to warm up by doing 5 minutes of cardio before you hit the weights, power to you. If it makes you feel better prepared to train hard and get the most out of your weight training, great. In colder climates, especially with the fall and winter seasons upon us, this may even be advisable. But remember, we're talking about a cardio warm-up before training, not a cardio session aimed at burning fat. That will come after you train, not before, if you are sequencing the workout properly.

NUTRITIONAL REASONS
Ever heard that you will burn more fat if you do cardio on an empty stomach? Wrong. You will burn more fat if you are depleted of carbohydrates when you do cardio. Protein and dietary fats don't affect the equation. If you wanted to, and it didn't bother your stomach, you could drink a high protein/very low carb protein drink or eat a chicken breast or a piece of lean red meat minutes before you started cardio and you'd still burn the same amount of fat. But, if you have a piece of fruit or a cup of rice before that same session, you won't.

When you eat carbohydrates, the body stores them in the form of glycogen in your liver. Then, as you need to use them for energy, the glycogen stores are used until they are depleted. The problem is that the body will not burn fat until the glycogen stores are depleted. In other words, until you burn all your stored carbs, the body will not turn to your fat stores for energy and no fat will be burned. Now for the really bad news. Studies have indicated that it can take as much as 29 minutes of cardiovascular activity to deplete your glycogen stores. So, when you did that 30 minute cardio session after eating carbs sometime within several hours of beginning the session, you burned fat for a whopping minute--ONE MINUTE.

Does that mean that the session was a total waste of time. No. There are two benefits to cardiovascular work. In addition to burning fat, you elevate your metabolism every time you do cardio, which enhances your body's ability to metabolize food and burn fat for several hours after the session. You'll get that benefit regardless of whether your glycogen stores are full or depleted. But, if you are going to spend the time doing cardio in the first place, why settle for only half the benefit? You're going to work just as hard and spend just as much time either way.

While glycogen (carbs) will deprive you of the full benefit of your cardio, it has the opposite effect on working with the weights. Remember that the benefits to weight training are building/maintaining lean muscle tissue and elevated metabolism. This is anaerobic activity, not aerobic activity like cardio. Therefore, you don't weight train to burn bodyfat. Rather, you do it to build muscle.

When you weight train (anaerobic activity), the body's preferred energy source that enables you to train hard and be and stay strong for the workout is--you guessed it--carbohydrate. So, if you train before you do cardio, the glycogen necessary for productive workouts is both available and used. As you train the glycogen is used for energy and depleted. Ah! Depleted glycogen. Exactly where you want to be when you start cardio (aerobic activity) so that you can BURN FAT!

PRACTICAL REASONS
In addition to the nutritional reasons we've covered, there are other practical considerations that dictate doing your weight training before your cardio. Have you heard about or witnessed many people injuring themselves walking on a treadmill or stairmaster or riding a bike? Me neither. In the grand scheme of things, cardio may be tedious at times, but the risk of injury is pretty slim. Now, how many times have you seen or heard someone talk about pulling this or that or experiencing some discomfort because of something they did while weight training? Hopefully not too often, but a helluva lot more than with cardio. So, you'd have to agree that between the two, there is a greater risk of injury with weight training than there is with cardio. Given that fact, doesn't it make the most sense to weight train when you are in your freshest, strongest condition, both physically and mentally? Obviously, you are going to be in that peak condition when you get to the gym, not after you've done cardio for a half-hour or more at a high enough heart rate to burn fat.

The bottom line: Weight train first, when you have everything in your favor. You'll be mentally and physically fresher and stronger. You'll be in the ideal physiological environment as a result of your nutrition and appropriate use of your glycogen stores for the activities your're engaging in and the respective benefits they offer. Barbells don't just come before bikes in the dictionary. For the MAXIMUM RESULT, they should be sequenced that way in the gym too.
 
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Good article and it makes a lot of sense. I am a day behind in this rotate and did the back and then 10-10-10. I know I felt like the back portion was easier than usual, and it probably was because I was not worn down by anything.

I do like breaking slow and heavy down into smaller parts. I like slow and heavy training, but mentally I want to move on. By limiting the workout to shorter span, it is more tolerable and I think I get more out of it. Today I did back, only one set of dead lifts(I am having some problems with low back, and until I get a massage next week, I am babying it), the supermans, planks, and abs from SH triceps. That combination before the 10-10-10 made me really feel my abs on the kickbox portion and I really liked that.
I will swim laps also today, but not until tonight.

Have a good(although another grey one here in Illinois) day

Dorothy
 
Am having a blast with this rotation so far but I have a question............I always do the cardio first and then weight work......I always think of it as warming up my body more. Should I be lifting weighs first and then cardio? Does it make a difference?

Help?
 
Karen

look at the second to last post before yours and you will see some answers to your question.

Bear in mind that this article is slanted heavily towards those whose primary mission is to lose body fat also. Bear in mind too that what will ultimately dictate whether you do cardio or weights first is your personal bodily reactions to the exercises and comfort level. If, as for some, weights first leaves you too sore to move afterwards so that you would not complete your cardio and major fat loss is not your primary goal, then I would say continue with cardio first as you seem to find preferable. I certainly do. Even if you put weights afterwards, you will still be building lean muscle tissue.

Also, if you are someone who thrives on the endorphin rush of good cardio, then doing weights first, exhausting yourself so much that you struggle to get through the cardio (as many have done on this thread) may not be much fun for you.

Bottom line, do what works for you regardless of the order for exercises given in Cathe's rotation. I'm sure Cathe would say the same.

Clare
 
Hi everyone, I did S&H shoulders and MIC as I was supposed too.
I can not lift 15lbs. like Cathe on the over head presses! I have to use 10lbs. This was the first time I have done any of MIC and WOW! was I tired. My body is not used to Hi/Lo! I guess I should do that more often. LOL! For some reason this rotation has me energized. I'm not sure if it's the Cardio after weights or maybe it's the morning workout. I usually workout around 3 or 4.

Punky, thanks for the article. It's very interesting. I'm going to print it out.


:D
 
Hi All! I'm on my 3rd day on this rotation and am really liking it. Like most, I did S&H Shoulders and MIC Hi-Lo today. Felt pooped, but in a good way, of course. I am new to the S&H Series, having only started it last week (4th week of the May rotation), and am really loving it. I like the idea of being able to lift heavy and doing slow reps coz I can really concentrate on my form, as opposed to endurance workouts which tire me easily coz of more reps and the faster pace. I am taking a rest day tomorrow as designed, and am looking forward to it.

I started with Cathe's workouts last August 2002 and so far love all her workouts and what it does for me physically and emotionally.

Cya soon and enjoy your workouts!

Nette
 
Hi Clare!

Thanks for the info. I just read the article. Very interesting.......I think I will try doing the weight firt for awhile and then cardio....see if I notice a differrence. I always thought my body was more ready to go after 1/2 hour cardio. I know after an hour of cardio......weights is much harder to do. Anyways, appreciate your feedback.

Do you do weights before cardio?

Karen
 
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Ok, I did Day 3 today - S&H Shoulders (those rotator cuff exercises are killer for me!), and MIC Aerobics. Now I hate hi/lo aerobics - always have for some reason. For some reason it always hurts my back afterwards - maybe I don't use good form, but I never have any problem with step. I made it through 25 mins, which is excellent for me - I don't think I've ever done hi/lo that long. And no sore back, so all this strength work is maybe giving me some good support. I find my cardio capacity is really increasing lately (used to be PATHETIC now is better). So I'm happy that I made it through 25 minutes and that's good enough for me.

Christi - how did the early morning working out go? I feel for you - my hubby is a night person too, and it kills him to do stuff in the morning.

Dorothy - its good you are being kind to your back - better safe than workout-less for a couple of weeks while you heal! I like doing S&H is smaller parts as well - easier to focus! I'm really getting into this rotation.
 
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Clare said:
>
>Bear in mind that this article is slanted heavily towards
>those whose primary mission is to lose body fat also. Bear in
>mind too that what will ultimately dictate whether you do
>cardio or weights first is your personal bodily reactions to
>the exercises and comfort level. If, as for some, weights
>first leaves you too sore to move afterwards so that you would
>not complete your cardio and major fat loss is not your
>primary goal, then I would say continue with cardio first as
>you seem to find preferable. I certainly do. Even if you put
>weights afterwards, you will still be building lean muscle
>tissue.
>
>Also, if you are someone who thrives on the endorphin rush of
>good cardio, then doing weights first, exhausting yourself so
>much that you struggle to get through the cardio (as many have
>done on this thread) may not be much fun for you.
>
>Bottom line, do what works for you regardless of the order for
>exercises given in Cathe's rotation. I'm sure Cathe would say
>the same.
>
>Clare

Clare, I totally agree with your take. I was interested in the reasoning behind the weights first theory and there seems to be some science that makes sense, but bottom line:

a) I'm not sure everyone has the same goals, or everyone's body behaves exactly the same.
b) if you kill yourself on the weights first and can't do the cardio then it serves no purpose - primary goal is to complete the entire workout!
c) I think everyone has to experiment with what works for them.
d) I don't think there ARE any definitive answers to some of these questions, or we'd all be doing the same workout program, or an exact formula would be set up. I think there are pieces of a puzzle, and we have to do the best we can with the knowledge that is out there.

I am personally finding this whole topic fascinating. This is the first time ever I have tried weights first before cardio (except in a combined workout like Bootcamp). The first day absolutely killed me, but that might be because it was legs. The last couple of days have been great and I feel extra energized for some reason. This is the first time I've experimented with weights before cardio, so I'm watching and learning about my own body.

I just wanted to make sure you understood that I copied and showed the article as one point of view, because we had been asking why Cathe set up the rotation as Weights before Cardio, and I wanted to know what someone's reasoning might be.

Thanks for your opinions as well - I always value them!

Jodi
 
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Hi everyone,
It's nice to see everyone enjoying this rotation. Today I did S&H shoulders and instead of MIC I did 30 min. of my Spinerval workout. I tried for 10 mins to to MIC but I just couldn't get into it. Hi/lo is not my favorite. I am glad tomorrow is a rest day. I didn't get back yesterday to do 10/10/10, I was just to tired after my daughter's class trip. Hope everyone enjoys their evening

Phyllis:)
 
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Oh my God, I thought that Step & Intervals was going to kill me last night! (Because I just did legs on Sunday, I switched Day 1 & Day 2 in the rotation.) Step & Intervals really does me in, for some reason even more thoroughly than Imax 2, and trying to do with pre-fatigued legs was--a challenge. To say the least.

But I made it through! After literally dreading the workout all day yesterday. I'm kind of looking forward to S&H Shoulders & MIC Hi-Lo tonight. I like shoulder work a lot, and MIC is one of the few videos I own that I've never done.

Gayla
 

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