Cathe-Question re: PLB

debfer

Cathlete
HI Cathe- thanks for everything you do--I am currently doing the pyramid tape and I also do HIIT (jump rope & step) 2 x week , 1 session of steady state cardio (jump rope- 40 min, fast) and 1 session of regular step (so a total of 4 cardio per week and PUB 2x week & PLB 2x week) my question is do you think I will see a diiference in muscle definition in my legs if I start using a barbell instead of dumbbells on PLB? I currently do PLB holding any where from 24-40 lbs. but I wondered if the barbell will make a big difference and if so I'll go ahead and get one (since so many of your tapes use the barbell)-thanks for your time-deb:)
 
Not Cathe, but my sense is that you won't see increased definition by using a barbell instead of dumbbells if you are not also increasing the weight. In other words, 40 lbs is 40 lbs, whether it's on your back or on your shoulders. The barbell may make it more comfortable for you to go up in weight, because your back can generally take more than your shoulders. As I said though, this is just my sense, so I hope more people write in. Good luck!
 
Hi,

I agree with what Melclear said about increasing the weight to see more results.

I am not sure if the weight you can lift using dumbbells is an issue, but it was for me. My maximum in PLB also used to be 40 lbs -- mostly because I couldn't comfortably hold more than a 20 lb dumbbell in each hand, or resting on each shoulder, etc. The way I increased my weight, rather than buying a barbell, was to buy a weighted vest. The vest can be weighted up to 20 lb, so when I wear it and hold my 20 lb dumbbells, I am lifting a total of 60 lb. It has made PLB much tougher, but I've seen the results in the cut of my legs and strength & endurance gains.
 
Thanks so much for your input- I learn so much from these boards-I may have to try a weighted vest & glad to hear you got results from it- I should have made clear in my post that when I do PLB I hold the weights low-at my sides-I don't know if that makes a difference-I lift the same as cathe in a lot of moves but still am not getting the cut look she has (but honestly it's only been a month of pyramids)-I guess its gonna take awhile-thanks again-deb
 
Stebby or Melclear-I also wanted to ask if the vest affects your back at all? any issues with that?I'm sure you have to be real careful and have good form, etc. and I have had a new thought- that cathe must lift heavier on her own time than she does in her workouts because like I said above-i'm lifting what she does and I don't look "cut" at all like she does-any thoughts? deb
 
Hi Deb -

I haven't tried the weighted vest because I have a bad back and am afraid to mess it up. So I'll leave that to Stebby. I will mention that you're probably right about Cathe using heavier weights -- she has mentioned working out in her gym, where the right equipment can really help you go much heavier than you can with free weights.

But also, I'm sure it took her more than 1 month to get big results. I don't know what your fitness level is or how long you have been at it, but for me, it just takes a lot of patience. I've been working out with Cathe DVD's exclusively for about a year now, and am just starting to actually look a bit muscular. Without knowing more details, I would tell you to keep at it, stay consistent, eat clean, and keep mixing it up (heavier weights 1 month, then circuits, then endurance, etc.).

I hope this helps!
 
Thanks Melclear- I will try mixing it up-maybe thats the problem- I've been lifting for about 2 years-first year the Firm and this past year cathe-ME, Cardio & weights and a liitle bit of pyramids and then in the last month or 2 have really stuck hard with pyramids-thanks for your insight-deb
 
Hi Deb,

I don't have back problems using my vest, but I am very careful about my posture while I am putting it on, taking it off and picking up / putting down dumbbells.

Stebby
 
Hi, not Cathe here.

Some things for you to consider.

What the other posters say about weight is weight whether barbell or dumbbell sounds right.

Arnold Schwarzenegger's book on bodybuilding is great for weight training info even if you are not a bodybuilder. I bought it used in paper back at Amazon for $10. HIs beginner program urges doing training for forearms consisting of wrist curls (both regular and reverse). This would help with the problem of picking up and holding the heavier dumbbells. You could start with, e.g. two sets of 10 reps, and do it after finishing Cathe's DVD. Just start with low weights so you don't injure anything and build (more weight and maybe another set) gradually.

Re. the "cut" look. If you go to bodybuilding.com, and look under articles and the section about transformations (before and afters for people who started exercising), you will find a lot of info about getting the cut look. In general, they point out that building muscle is one part of getting cut. The other part is fat loss, i.e. getting rid of the subcutaneous fat layer that hides the muscle (particularly an issue with abs). So we all have to figure out how to balance the muscle building and fat loss to get whatever degree of muscle definition you decide you want. By the way, if you do go to that site, be prepared. There are people who really go to extremes. But lots of helpful and knowledgeable info.

Re. the muscle building. Arnold Scharzenegger's book says that to build muscle, you have to exercise it to exhaustion. I also use Cathe's Pyramid DVD every week and find that, in order to complete the pyramid which is, I think, 5 sets for each exercise, I use less weight than when doing 2 or 3 sets. This makes it, for me anyway, at least in part an endurance work out (lower weights and many reps) and not, strictly speaking, a muscle building (higher weights, fewer reps) work out.

Both for variety and for musclebuilding purposes I alternate between Cathe's Pyramid DVD and her Musclemax DVD. The Musclemax does 2 or 3 sets of each exercise. Also, there is is PREMIX on the Pyramid DVD where you do the ascending sets of each exercise only (I think it is called "up"). So you might try this different type of routine once or twice a week and on the last set have heavier weight so that you can barely finish the set or even, in the beginning, only be able to do half or two thirds of the reps in the final set. As you strengthen, add weight until you get whatever muscle size you want. And be sure there is enough protein in your diet to build the muscle fiber you are trying to get.

If you want to stick with the Pyramid program only, then try to increase the weight on the third set with the heaviest weight. Just add 3 or 5 lbs more than what you are currently doing.

Other posters on cathe.com have recommended cathe's slow and heavy or the Gymstyle series for muscle building. Have not tried them myself.

Re. your schedule. Several of the weight training books I have read talk about exercising each muscle every other day. So if your goal is muscle building, you might try doing one less cardio per week and one additional weight training so that you are doing 3 cardio and 3 weight training. Or, add one more weight work out per week for whichever muscles you are trying to build.

Good luck. I always want to learn more, so any corrections or additions to the above are appreciated.
 
Thanks-Howrobin for your insight- it's very helpful-I have not ever tried any of the premixes-never knew how-maybe I'll experiment with that like you mentioned-deb
 

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