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MAYNARDSMOM

MAYNARDSMOM

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I need some advice on this. I have mentioned several times on the forums that my husband & I have had a litter of AKC choc lab puppies. My avatar is one of the little darlings. They are 11 weeks old today & we have 3 girls left. Raising a litter is alot of work & I can honestly say we are not getting rich off these guys. My biggest concern is that they go to good homes.
I've been talking with a guy who is interested in 2 of the girls. He is about 1 hr & 40 min away from us. I can honestly say that my gut just doesn't feel well with this. He says he has a male himself who he breeds & has 3 puppies left from that litter. He is wanting to get a female to use to breed in 2 yrs. He sounds like he knows what he's doing, maybe to good to be true. He just goes on & on but it seems like as he goes on the little details are always different. Yesterday he had 1 male puppy left, today it was 3 then 2. He has a $150,000 home then it was a $200,00 home. Just little things like that. Do I listen to my gut & cut him loose? We are selling them for $450 we told him we would sell him one for $400. Now that he wants 2, he wants 2/$600. I'm not dropping that low.

Help!!!! :(
 
Í'd listen to your gut.
Or at least visit his place--unannounced--and check it out. He might have a puppy mill and not treat them well.

(And you might consider not breeding any more in the future, if it's so hard to get them into a good home.)
 
I would trust your gut.
This guy sounds like someone who is trying to make money from breeding. I would want my puppies to go to a home that is looking to add a family member, not improve business.

Edited to say....I wish I had room for another fur baby!!! Your baby is adorable!
 
Thanks so much for telling me what I know is true - cut him loose. The more I think about it the more I just don't like it. I have definately thought if he is still interested after the amount I e-mailed back it would be under the terms that I bring them there. I don't think he'll want to pay what I offered for 2, hopefully problem solved.

And you are right Kathryn, I am planning on spaying our female after this. I have enjoyed the experience but find it is hard to let my little "granbabies" go. Glad we did it, but not again.
 
Listen to your inner voice--he doesn't sound right to me. We had a litter of weimaraner puppies some years ago and I remember how nervewrecking it was to be sure of good homes. We had a lot of interest so that wasn't the problem. The problem was making sure everyone was truthful and finding the best home for each pup. This guy doesn't sound right at all. I wanted to add that you certainly don't get rich doing this as it is expensive and a lot of work. We did it once and then had our girl spayed. She had NINE puppies! I had to use a shovel to clean up!
 
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In keeping with all of the above advice, I would cut him loose. Sounds like you have already made that decision anyway. I would question why he is throwing weird details at you like how much his house cost. Who on earth cares? It does not mean that the home would be better. Sounds like he is trying to talk himself up, and if he needs to do that, then he does not need your sweet, innocent pups. You have your gut feeling for a reason - always go with that. Your puppies will be better off with someone who will give them a loving home and get them spayed. I once had a beautiful German Shepherd - well, two amazing dogs, one male and one female. The point is, I had taken Brooke (the female) to the vet and somebody in the waiting room noticed her and wanted to talk to me about breeding her - can't remember if they had a dog they wanted to use as a stud or just wanted a puppy. I said she was already fixed, that I wasn't interested in getting for anything other than a part of the family - breeding her had not even been a distant thought in my mind. This person was actually appalled that I would do such a thing to so such a beautiful dog. She looked at me like I was crazy and really didn't talk to me after that. Whatever. Brooke was happy and healthy. I say all of this just to say that maybe your man is like that lady at the vet. They don't see a pet - just a puppy factory. And BTW - I am in no way comparing you to somebody like these people. Just want to make that clear. These are obviously your pets who you care very much about. BIG difference.
 
Usually if something is to good to be true. It is, and if your gut is telling you something. I'd listen to it. I'd hate to think of those little darlings, living in deplorable conditions.
 
Doesn't sound good to me. Listen to your gut feelings and don't deal with him.

Janie
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Shana,

I had a similar situation with my male boxer. I was at the vet's office in the waiting room when someone asked me if I would be interested in using him as a stud. I told them I had him neutered. You should have seen the look on that person's face! He was really very curious as to why. I said, "He's not for breeding". I had both my boxers fixed. I did not want to worry about my male jumping the fence to go after a female in season.

As Tami can tell us, it is a lot of work and responsibility to whelp a litter. The financial cost is great. There are health benefits to spaying and neutering your pet. You greatly reduce the chances of cancer in both male and female.
 
Cynthia-I also had Stone (the male) neutered as soon as he was old enough. They were brother and sister so I didn't want any funny stuff to accidentally happen! My pets are all fixed and preach to everyone about getting their animals fixed. Our neighbor got a cat that was a male and didn't want to get him fixed b/c he said he could't do that -manhood and all! Can you believe it? And any kittens would not be his problem. Well, I was like a bad rash that would not go away and told him that I would take the cat in if he didn't. It was all very pleasant but I was persistent and he gave in and then admitted I was right and he had learned a thing or two ;)
 
tell me my womman say she help i think to old if kim could but im was ok kim with i did work but have a womman help


That is the reply I got from him after I e-mailed him saying our price, hoping that would get rid of him. Can anyone make heads or tails of this? I sure can't. He's done as far as I'm concerned. I have put to much time, money & my heart into my little darlings to worry about them. I would much rather drop my price for someone knowing they would give them a good home than taking asking price just to get the $$$. You are all so helpful, and I know none of you thought I was like him at all.

I am so glad that we have done this but like I said she will be getting spayed before her next heat cycle. I also had 9 puppies & boy can they poop!!!

Thank you all again for your responses & I will keep you posted if I hear from him again.
 
I agree with all who have posted, and say go with your gut instinct.

I used to breed lhasa apso dogs. Believe me, once you have made the "sale" and released the puppies to their new homes, you have no say over the matter. If you are uncomfortable about whether you have released them to good homes, that discomfort will be with you forever. Trust your instincts here.

Good luck!
 
meowracer said:
My pets are all fixed and preach to everyone about getting their animals fixed. Our neighbor got a cat that was a male and didn't want to get him fixed b/c he said he could't do that -manhood and all! Can you believe it?
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Yes, I can believe that! That is more common than you think. Many people associate neutering with manhood etc. It's crazy considering what goes on in shelters across America.
My husband and I met a very young couple with 2 boxers during obedience training. This couple's male boxer had bit the husband on the face very badly. The couple was in class "trying" to get the dog under control. The boxer lover that my husband and I are, introduced ourselves to the couple and chatted about what was going on. We found out the male boxer would go nuts when the female was in heat. The couple didn't want to breed, but they didn't want to get them fixed. They thought they could train them to behave. We told them that NOTHING outside of neutering would get this male under control. He was doing what mother nature intended and God help you if you think you can stop it by holding them back. Hopefully, we convinced the young couple to get the male neutered. This is just one example of how many dogs end up in rescue.

I worked volunteered for my local rescue group and you would not believe what goes on. Just watch animal cops on discovery and know this goes on every day in every city/state. I can't tell you how many times I've cried my eyes out in total disbelief about the abuse and neglect many dogs go through.
It is because of that I am pro spaying and neutering.
 
MAYNARDSMOM said:
tell me my womman say she help i think to old if kim could but im was ok kim with i did work but have a womman help


That is the reply I got from him after I e-mailed him saying our price, hoping that would get rid of him. Can anyone make heads or tails of this? I sure can't. He's done as far as I'm concerned. I have put to much time, money & my heart into my little darlings to worry about them. I would much rather drop my price for someone knowing they would give them a good home than taking asking price just to get the $$$. You are all so helpful, and I know none of you thought I was like him at all.

I am so glad that we have done this but like I said she will be getting spayed before her next heat cycle. I also had 9 puppies & boy can they poop!!!

Thank you all again for your responses & I will keep you posted if I hear from him again.
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Tami,

Tell him that your family has decided to keep the remaining litter to get rid of this nut case!

I considered breeding my first boxer for a while and my husband convinced me not to. He was afraid I would keep them all:D POOP POOP POOP!

Awwww, but they are just so cute!!!!





 
fit44 said:
Yes, I can believe that! That is more common than you think. Many people associate neutering with manhood etc.
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I've never heard this with cats, but I've known many men--never women--who don't neuter their male dogs (fear that somehow it 'neuters' them as well? Crazy!).
 
MAYNARDSMOM said:
tell me my womman say she help i think to old if kim could but im was ok kim with i did work but have a womman help
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Hmmm...definitely a semi-literate person.

Something about a woman helping him with something (his assistant? his wife?)
Something is too old (the puppies?)

Write something back to him like :

Wer say puppy ok kim for lets.


Seriously: just tell him you have another party to adopt (and if you want to make sure to get a good home that won't just use them for breeding, how about having them neutered/spayed as part of the adoption agreement?)
 
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